Curse

monstersparkler · Nov 08, 2006, 07:47 AM // 07:47

I played through the entire nightfall game with my warrior and had one gold drop for myself (not including one from a chest) and ive seen two drop (including mine)

Cebe · Nov 08, 2006, 10:49 AM // 10:49

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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

For some reason, I've been getting a bunch of Istani Keys recently. Amusingly, often from mobs by a chest...

You fiend! You noticed a poor defenseless mob trying to get their long awaited gold and you mugged them for their keys!

Hand your head in shame!

As for myself I have been having better luck than usual...the most purples I have had on a row from chests is about 12, and I also have had more golds drop from mobs than I have ever had over a 2 week period.

Cuthroat Dibbler · Nov 08, 2006, 11:16 AM // 11:16

Im my experience of NF now having got 100% Cartographer, beaten Abaddon I have to say I would actually agree with the OP on DROPS. they have been very weak and infrequent. CHESTS however I have done very well with and have 5 max dmg rare scythes with some groovy mods BUT they stand out due to the fact that other kit has been very infrequent from them, most notably Spears (Ive had ONE but it was a dynamite one), altho there HAS been a number of other rares from chests...so i dont think they are broken.

It does smack of a buggered system. Something IS wrong and and its not working as it should in terms of DROPS only tho

Im a Tyrian Necro that has opened precisely 167 high end chests (I was on 2500 at NF start now on 2667)

As for keys ... ive had about 6 drop in the total time since playing NF.

Insignias have been plentiful as have runes.

Oh yeah and had 3 greens, First was Ele wand..Suli's Scythe and a monk off hander

4thVariety · Nov 08, 2006, 01:17 PM // 13:17

So far I explored 83,0% of the Map with my Prophecies Ele.
Apart from a rune of superior hammer mastery and superior axe mastery rune, the only gold drop were one scythe and one staff. I found no Keys, therefore opened no chests. Currently I'm playing with heroes and genchies alone, except when I'm helping other alliance members on missions I already accomplished.

I grab everything and have noticed an insame ammount of dagger drops. blue rune drops and armor upgrades are ok so far, overall money output is relatively low.

Two greens dropped so far, one looking nice on my hero hench even though the skin is lame (standard monk fokus), the otehr being a ritualist wand I have no use for.

overall the droprate seems to be "cautios" especially concerning the monetary needs of heroes. sure you can go for collector items, but they have to be acquired as well (Time=Money). I'm glad having a financial reserve from previous chapters and would not want to be new to the game. Inscription pricing seems to indicate a healthy droprate though.

but the fist person able to solo Heckets outside the Tihark Orchard is going to be one rich sob. Good thing you can't max out your sunspear title by killing these suckers over and over.

Dye Drops were fairly regular before the weekend, suddenly stopped during the weekend and haven't recovered since. Well, apart from being nothing more than a free draw in the "dye lottery" they mean nothing to me as I simply buy them when I feel like it.

chikorita23 · Nov 11, 2006, 09:40 AM // 09:40

On the first 3-4 days of NF... I have high green weapon drop rate. (I already have total 6 greens) *2 green spear, 1 mesmer staff, 1 water staff, 2 green bows* Some of them drop at the very first time when I fight the boss with henches and heros.

But after the first NF update... my green drop rate was horrible... some of the greens I farm for few days or a week until now. Still no drop! *I try to farm with only 2 or 3 heros... most of the time, dunno why Anet decrease the drop rate so much*

And yes its hard to get max stats weapon.... I generally save collector items for collector weapons. And salvage the mod from none-max weapon add it for my collector weapon.

arcanemacabre · Nov 11, 2006, 10:05 AM // 10:05

My wife is really aggrevating me. Well, I guess it would be her character that's aggrevating me. OK, well, I guess it would be the drop system favoring my wife's character... well you get the point.

Since NF release, she's gotten 2 White dyes, 2 Black dyes, 5 Radiant Insignias, 3 Major Vigors, and tons of golds. Every time we do a quest, she gets at least 1 gold, be it from a chest or a drop, and in many cases she'll get 4-5 golds.

Me? I get 1 gold every 6-7 chests, and none from drops. I've gotten 1 dye since NF release, and it was a green - whoopTEdoo. I have gotten a fair share of some nice runes and insignias, most of which I use on myself or my heroes. Not a lot of drops, but I do tend to get some nice purples, decent skins. So I'm moderately happy.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I have gotten one green weapon. Unfortunately it was an Istani starter-island piece of crap.

Eilsys · Nov 11, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30

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Originally Posted by Kha

Like the guy in the mission that gets the only 4 gold drops while no one else even got a purple. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground with luck in this game. It's like once someone gets something good, they keep getting good stuff over... and over... and over. Best thing I've ever found was a +5 Gothic Sword. I'm lucky to find anything with a req under 11, let alone something with good stats. Good thing it's just a game... or I might... start to...

In Nahpui one time, the annoying, gawdawful ele got three max Celestial shields. Nothing for the rest of us.

We did the mission twice, he got 1 the first time, 2 the second.

Sparks Dawnbringer · Nov 13, 2006, 02:15 AM // 02:15

Yes, we think the gold rate has dropped a lot. We have done a lot of Vabbi and gotten only 2 gold drops for both of us. We both have topped out of sunbringer points and are level 3 in lightbringer. One is a Tyria monk and one is a Canthia Monk. We seem to be having a farmed out problem too in Tyria and areas don't seem to be resetting. We don't do 55 Monks but do solo in Tyria and good places have dried up completely. I have 3 accounts and it seems to be effecting all 3 of mine and both of my brothers. We have gotten golds from chests in Vabbi areas sometimes 2 or 3 an area but we paid for these with keys. I have gotten only 2 Vabbi Keys. And does everything have to be daggers. I got enough daggers to start my own army. We both salvaged one geode and got a gem and I did get a ruby from measure for measure on ruby daggers. Maybe letting us know just what you consider a gold drop is would help. I know I always figure if I got a charcoal it was a gold drop and think the same of geodes, and maybe dyes too.
I also think you have been price fixing everything in the game. The rune prices just don't make sence. If Superior Absorbtion is sold out how come the price dosen't go up. And I also think you are adding stuff to stock to control prices. We bought 9 Superior Vigors the other night and the price did not go up a bit. Then it fell the next day even lower. I don't really have a problem with this but would like to know when it will stop and exactaly what you are doing so I can adjust my buying and selling accordingly.

zinfamous · Nov 13, 2006, 03:09 AM // 03:09

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Originally Posted by Dahl

Ruby Daggers are a gift from heaven.

They yield Rubies when salvaged.

5k every time Ruby daggers drop, not too shabby!

What are you talking about? I've gotten ~20 ruby dagger drops. Every one of them has salvaged into no more than 2 piles of dust each. (funny, other such items would give you about 10 piles...but these daggers only 1 or 2; as if they're mocking me) 5k? more like 30g each. Perhaps there was a bug earlier that allowed this exploit...but I ain't seen crap with these junk drops.

For the record...I got maybe 6 gold drops over the last 2 days in Vabbi. Much higher rate than previous. Offhands, daggers mostly. 1 sword. I got one very nice gold scythe in a Kourna chest (^15% -10, 19% enchant, ebon) early on...but yes, the drops have been weak.

Kcp · Nov 13, 2006, 05:00 AM // 05:00

Ya the drops are fugged up IMO. I have solo'd torments, titans, and my old standard menzies army in the realms of torment........The drops are pretty horrendous. Most of the items aren't even max damage or defense, and these are from end game lvl 24+ enemies, wtf is up with that. 13-18 damage swords, 14 def shields cmon now. On the started island or lvl 16-20 mobs I can understand, but end game abaddon's army. What kind of evil leader equips his special forces with slingshots and booger flickers. I was expecting atomic bombs on sticks or depleted uranium arrowheads

I'm hoping the drop table is screwed up and is going to be fixed.....The way ANET has been going lately it may be on purpose.

All the rares that I have found were mostly from questing, and chests. Some have been really good with perfect inscriptions that are useful, but the skins havent impressed me really so far and most of the times these items werent even max damage or defense either.

I play PVE for the rare drops personally. I could care less about greens I despise them. Most people also play PVE for the items, and screwing with item drops isn't going to be good for business. The farming nerf was kind of overkill, but adaptable, however if they get all doped up and nerf farming again, that will probably be it for me and GLS.

Who wants to buy a 17.5 mill exp necro with all skills minus my last few elite caps? j/k

Nightfall is a great game I love it. I'm personally not digging all of the above^

Tachyon · Nov 13, 2006, 05:31 AM // 05:31

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Originally Posted by Jhadur

Oh and you must be unlucky with your dye drops as I think I've had a total of about 25-30 black dyes drop for me since I started GW.
Got 2 in a day a few weeks back while skill capping through cantha.

So, now I know who's been stealing my quota of black dye's then! I've only had five drop since Prophecies, and three of those were in pre-searing!

Thanks for stealing my dye, Jhad!

chikorita23 · Nov 13, 2006, 10:08 AM // 10:08

NF drop rate is weird... it was very nice in the first 3 days. The game release on Oct27th.... the first 3 days I have wonderful drop including green weapons. But ever since the first NF game update, the drop rate is poor. I agree with the non-max weapon drop issue. And I do got a lot of purple hammers and daggers... *which I agree to some people saying we can't even make Assassin in NF*

Even in Istani land... I solo enemies just to get a collector item for a bag pack... those lv2 or lv1 enemy doesn't really drop what I'm looking for.... *for just 2 legs and it took me an hour*

Oh well, hopefully Anet will face the problem and do something about it soon.
Even though it's only a game, but players do spend efforts and amount of time on it, a more regular drop rate will be the best reward for gw players.

arcanemacabre · Nov 13, 2006, 10:14 AM // 10:14

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Originally Posted by zinfamous

What are you talking about? I've gotten ~20 ruby dagger drops. Every one of them has salvaged into no more than 2 piles of dust each. (funny, other such items would give you about 10 piles...but these daggers only 1 or 2; as if they're mocking me) 5k? more like 30g each. Perhaps there was a bug earlier that allowed this exploit...but I ain't seen crap with these junk drops.

No, it's very true. My wife (yes, again - ARGH!) has salvaged 2 ruby daggers and gotten a ruby from both. The second one was last night, and she used the "Measure for Measure" inscription on it first, so this hasn't been "fixed". She's also gotten 1 sapphire from jeweled daggers, so there's that, too.

Me? Again with the bad luck. I've salvaged 4-5 jeweled and ruby daggers - nothin' but dust/steel/iron. I don't get it. She's getting all the luck, and I'm getting the leftovers, lol. (Thank Dwayna we share!)

Thalion Galad · Nov 13, 2006, 02:27 PM // 14:27

hi all
regarding chests drops in the realms and drops in general...
the 1st week after release of NF the drops was fair but now...
is just me ? or a server tunning ?
just now i did gate of secrets, some quests and elite caping (clear the hole area), and the drops are bad then some low lvl places, i allways play whit heros and henchies, by now mhenlo pick up much betther drops then me...

My last drops 12 demonic relics / 3 purple armors / 2 purple focus /1 purple spear / 1 scroll of beserkers / 4 white weapons and 5 inscribed shards
i'm just unlucky ?
last week the drops are allways like this...

sry about my gramm if u dont like it try write this in portuguese :P

Born in Ascalon 1 year ago whit 1000 h in play time
All areas going for elonian cartographer
the Heroes or Henchies i'm using
Master of whispers
dunkoro
olias
Mhenlo
Kihm
Herta
Odurra

Hengis · Nov 13, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12

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Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious

Still I think that there isn't a problem, so much as the monsters in Elona seem to drop gold a lot more than items. This has been my experience at least.

Except for one area out in the Desolation somewhere (I can't remember exactly which part at the minute though) where the monsters of levels 24-28 constantly only drop 4 or 5 gold coins! Made me laugh when I saw it the first time!

"Your party shares 4 gold"

LOL!!

Dazzler · Nov 16, 2006, 08:11 PM // 20:11

I am most of the way through Vabbi and have yet to see a gold or green drop. I've seen a few (2-5) purples.

I am: Tyrian Ele fire nuker
I travel with:

Olias (MM)
Sousuke (Fire nuker)
Drunkoro (healing)
Healing Hench
Holy Hench
Motivation Hench
Fighter Hench.

I've recently decided to try playing with only the heroes and no henchies. We'll see if things improve any. It will be harder but if I can get through the first fight or 2 so Olias can build his army of body blockers we should be ok...

Batou of Nine · Dec 02, 2006, 05:27 AM // 05:27

Resurrecting old Threads FTW! (Seems fitting with the new "Elite" zones)

FFS SAKES PEOPLE!

This isn't about Minions stealing drops, or heros taking additional drops.
Its mainly about drop QUALITY in NIGHTALL! Not getting something as simple as a max stat item of ANYTHING in the Realm of Torment is a small clue.

Latest trend in the CRAP Nightfall drops quality. NON max items in the new elite, hardest area of all of Elona, Domain of Anguish. LMAO! Spend nearly 5 hours today trying to get past the first few groups in each zone, only to walk away with 66 gold and a non max blue hammer, and a non max white scythe. Guild group this whole time, no one else got max stat anything, nor did anyone on my friend list. GG, harder zones without the incentive. PvE is becoming worse and worse...

Just for reference::

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...39#post2287639

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Originally Posted by Batou of Nine

I honestly welcome a good challenge. In fact, i spent nearly 5 hours with guildies trying all the different zones in the Domain of Anguish. We are able to kill several mobs in 3 of the zones. And that is it. All of us are players since DAY ONE of prophecies and are weathered, experienced players...

Now not being able to get past the first few feet of a zone is fustrating enough. But after nearly 5 hours, i have 66 gold and a NON max blue hammer and a NON max white spear.

THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE ELITE ZONE! Your telling me EVEN at the HIGHEST, most ELITE part of the game i cant get max statistic drops?! NF drop system (quality) in general is the biggest joke ever. I had a WHOLE thread dedicated to this fact. Even in the Realm of Torment, the majority of the time, one does NOT got max stat items. My thread EVEN got a reply from Gaile saying "if it is truely a problem, send a report to support." And Support's response? "Post your concerns in a forum for feedback and so Reps can catch wind of any problems."

IN other words the big "deny and point to someone else" manuever. The big never ending circle. Lame Lame Lame Lame... I could care less that we can't get past the first couple of mobs in EVERY DoA zone, but i DO care when we make some serious and determined attempts, only to walk away with a 11-28 dmg hammer? Or a 6-21 dmg spear? If i can't even get the simplest of max statistic WHITE items in the HARDEST area of the whole game, what's to keep my interest? There is only the incentive to getting the Armbraces of Truth for the weapons, but that feet in itself is INCREDIBLY hard at the moment. Anyone else notice drop quality in all of NF... and more specifically the crap quality of drops in the HARDEST part of the game, Domain of Anguish?

In the VERY LEAST we should be getting white items with MAX dmg or MAX statistics. This fact is ridiculous and leaves the most ridiculous incentive value ever. If Anet is going to deny a drop-quality problem AGAIN, then i think i just about am done with RoA and perhaps all of NF....

Cheers.

EDIT: OH! And no, NO ONE else in the guild group had gotten any max statistic drop, at all. I checked my whole friend list too, and not a single friend that has triend the DoA has gotten any max stat drops EITHER...

EDIT: AND also people, STOP posting your info about character, and campaign, etc. Gaile was talking about listing that info in a SUPPORT TICKET to Anet!! Yeesh.

cheers... ish.

Nickhimself · Dec 02, 2006, 05:36 AM // 05:36

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Originally Posted by aspectacle

QFT. What is it with all the daggers? I'm trying to get wands for my caster heroes and all I'm getting is daggers. Those and purple hammers. What is it with purple hammers?

To-date in NF with my Tank that I CR with often, i've found:

5 req 9 Jeweled Daggers (gold)
3 req 9 Ruby Daggers (gold)
4 req 9 Bronze Daggers (gold)

and way too many other daggers req 10 and above.

I've been salvaging the daggers lately, in hopes of getting gems. I mean, i've made so many useless / pointless daggers for my assassin it's not even funny. I've replaced all of my greens with golds of the same stats, just because i've found THAT many freaking daggers.

Also, I ran some Ancient Elona chests, found probably 7 or 8 Rit wands. SPAWNING POWER, not even a useful Attribute for any build that I run. I mean, wtf. The best you can hope for there is like, +5e ^ 50 of quickening.

SAD FACE

xXa1 · Dec 02, 2006, 06:36 AM // 06:36

just one example, my tyrian necromancer at any Domain in the Realm of Torment

ive cleared out these maps while doing quests, skillcapping or just out of having nothing better to do and the only max damage drops ive ever gotten was 1 green and 1 gold. roughly 80% of which is white, the rest blue with the rare purple. chests are ALL purple and i dont buy keys anymore.

compare that to the drops in cantha and tyria prior to the 27oct06 update and all i can think of is an anti-farm nerf.

lolz, why do i even bother posting ... trust me anet will say its how we designed it, get used to it and adapt.

Axe Addict · Dec 02, 2006, 07:04 AM // 07:04

I get tons of gold coins but so far i have 1 gold hammer a ton of non max purple and white and 1 set of green daggers Achors , dye drops are pretty constant tho very rarely white and black i havent seen for over a year but on the whole i think im doing ok , finally got enough cash and materials for my primevil Armour ,so the drop system could mabey include so max gold weapons in the wurm areas , and what is it with purple chests 25 keys 1 gold chest